[quote=gal]however offensive she may be towards twi-hards, she’s right. the entire saga is built on the sexual relationship of edward & bella. their entire relationship drips of unrequited sexual tension. sexual tension, first kiss, sexual tension, first bite, sexual tension, last bite, sexual tension, first time, first baby, etc[/quote]

And I love each minute of that!!!

[quote=Sasha]She has convinced me and unlike you and other twihards, she actually backs up her arguments with useful and actual facts.[/quote]

Sasha you such like leslie talking the same way of writing…or you are leslie…using other name!?! Get a life…

[quote=Taylor]Emma earned somewhere around 30 million last year and earned more than any young actress this year! How much did Kristen make?She’s in RHODE ISLAND studying, it’s not like she’s in CA, studying at UCLA or something! And why is she considering leaving the movie industry if, according to you, her coming to the US was just a cover in order to be closer to the movie industry?It is YOU who sounds ridiculous! Know the other side of the argument before you start making accusations! Thank you![/quote]

Probably you are reading news very old or even very untrue! Go and take a look the real amount that she had earned… You need to find out the actual news…And dumb, you didn’t understand why she is in USA??? To get a job!!! Dumbooooo

[quote=Me]Probably you are reading news very old or even very untrue! Go and take a look the real amount that she had earned… You need to find out the actual news…And dumb, you didn’t understand why she is in USA??? To get a job!!! Dumbooooo[/quote]
You’re saying that Forbes magazine is lying? And Vanity Fair?Now why in the hell would they do that?

Get over yourself and accept that there are people who make more than your precious KStew!

[quote=Me]Sasha you such like leslie talking the same way of writing…or you are leslie…using other name!?! Get a life…[/quote]
I’m flattered that you think that I’ am Leslie, but no I’m not. There’s more than just one intelligent person on this board you know, or you’re just too stupid to realize it…. I’m putting my money on the second option.

[quote=gal]me too!! i LOVE the twilight series, but i also love the fact that she doesn’t hesitate to speak plainly about it. she has no reason to hate on twilight since she’s worked with pattinson and hp has been wildly successful as well. she just called a spade a spade and if that offends some, too bad. open your eyes–the sex is all over it.[/quote]
lol i agree with you both

TWILIGHT IT NOT ALL ABOUT SEX OBVIOUSLY SHES A TEENAGER WITH RAGING HORMONES WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? ALSO IF YOU KNOW THE WHOLE STORY HE IS WAITING FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE THEY HAVE AN ENCOUNTER. AND IN THE LAST BOOK WHEN THEY HAVE SEX YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE ITS SEX THE WAY ITS WRITTEN ….BUT I DONT THINK SHE JEALOUS JUST GAVE HER OPINION

TWILIGHT IT NOT ALL ABOUT SEX OBVIOUSLY SHES A TEENAGER WITH RAGING HORMONES WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? ALSO IF YOU KNOW THE WHOLE STORY HE IS WAITING FOR MARRIAGE BEFORE THEY HAVE AN ENCOUNTER. AND IN THE LAST BOOK WHEN THEY HAVE SEX YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE ITS SEX THE WAY ITS WRITTEN ….BUT I DONT THINK SHE JEALOUS JUST GAVE HER OPINION

[quote=tiziana]first of all i am neither dumb nor 6…i am a normal 22 year old that thanks to twilight i got to rebuild my hopes in love…i am aware that the way the story portrays it is unrealistic but watching a bunch of kids doing magic and flying with brooms is much more unrelaistic!!!..and the fact that edward does anything bella wants shows how sometimes a person acts to see his or her partner happy…in this way i see twilight close to reality sometimes!..it makes one think on his/her everyday actions i think![/quote]

i understand you, but i don’t think you’re quite right there. hp might be dumb in your eyes, but you have to look at the overall theme of it; its about good and bad, plain and simple. twilight is about “true love”, obsession and action. i use true love in quotations because it’s not actually true love. the way it explains it and portrays is only giving false hope & and a really bad rep of love. you’ve got the right idea about how the fact he’s willing to do whatever for her becasue he wants to is definatly a good part in a realtionship, but it’s not everything. its about laughing, communication, having a good time with the person doing absolutly nothing. something thats not really shown in twlight and i believe all of the above is extremely important to any relationship real or not. laughter with your partner is waht is going to get you through your dissagreements and make it last. you cannot have a realtionship like bella and edward and expect it to last as long as it did in the real world; there’s too much negativity. you need to lighten up and laugh at your mistakes and your mishaps with your partner because thats all you can do to move on and move on right.

and i don’t care, i don’t like twilight. yes, i’ve read the books, watched the movies and i’d still rather read hp because it actually gives off a positive message; good will always conquer evil, despite the hardships. if you’d get over the fact of “a buch of kids doing magic and flying around on broomsticks”, you’d see that and realize it’s a better message for the youth than what twilight is.
oh and btw good conquers evil is just another way of saying love conquers evil. and in twilight… there isn’t much love. at least what love actually is, not what it’s made out to be by the movie. & i don’t mean to offend you at all, but you should refine what you say “love” is because how you explain it here… you got it wrong & probably the reason why you lost hope in it in the first place.

[quote=blahblahblah]

i understand you, but i don’t think you’re quite right there. hp might be dumb in your eyes, but you have to look at the overall theme of it; its about good and bad, plain and simple. twilight is about “true love”, obsession and action. i use true love in quotations because it’s not actually true love. the way it explains it and portrays is only giving false hope & and a really bad rep of love. you’ve got the right idea about how the fact he’s willing to do whatever for her becasue he wants to is definatly a good part in a realtionship, but it’s not everything. its about laughing, communication, having a good time with the person doing absolutly nothing. something thats not really shown in twlight and i believe all of the above is extremely important to any relationship real or not. laughter with your partner is waht is going to get you through your dissagreements and make it last. you cannot have a realtionship like bella and edward and expect it to last as long as it did in the real world; there’s too much negativity. you need to lighten up and laugh at your mistakes and your mishaps with your partner because thats all you can do to move on and move on right.

and i don’t care, i don’t like twilight. yes, i’ve read the books, watched the movies and i’d still rather read hp because it actually gives off a positive message; good will always conquer evil, despite the hardships. if you’d get over the fact of “a buch of kids doing magic and flying around on broomsticks”, you’d see that and realize it’s a better message for the youth than what twilight is.
oh and btw good conquers evil is just another way of saying love conquers evil. and in twilight… there isn’t much love. at least what love actually is, not what it’s made out to be by the movie. & i don’t mean to offend you at all, but you should refine what you say “love” is because how you explain it here… you got it wrong & probably the reason why you lost hope in it in the first place.[/quote]

I absolutely agree! I’m sorry, but I honestly feel bad that the poor girl you replied to only found new found hope in love through Twilight. Edward is obsessive, anti-social, controlling, and completely unrealistic. Their entire relationship is based off what a true couple in high school should NOT do. They do not go on dates, they are not social, and they obsess religiously over one another. It is infatuation NOT love.

Kids who date like this through high school end up losing important friendships, suffering through self-esteem issues, and even mental abuse. And like Bella, even end up pregnant at a ridiculously unrealistic age, even through marriage.

Even though the two are married when they have a child, it is still unrealistic; the two do not have jobs, & except for the fact that Edward is a vampire & somehow coincidentally wealthy, they do not have the means to financially support a child.

It sends a horrible message, and I find it disgusting.

The romantic relationships in Harry Potter, however, are more realistic. All of the characters are social, engage in social activities, start out as a group of friends, and never once wall themselves up in each other. I also love how the novels still continue along with the education of the characters, which ultimately shows how important education is.

In Twilight, education takes a backseat to the characters. They are not learning any life lessons, even out of the classroom. In Harry Potter, the characters are constantly applying what they have learned OUTSIDE of the classroom. I am sure Rowling meant to project that image when she wrote the novels.

And as for Emma not making money, and simply moving to the US for college in order to find other roles? HA. That’s so laughable!

She has the money to attend college wherever she pleases, and I would personally love to attend college in another country myself, but do not have the means to do so. And she obviously has NO trouble finding roles, as she is part of a highly successful franchise & after it ends, I am sure we will see even more of her!

Oh and another thing, I would not want someone who does EVERYTHING I want. That would make me selfish and self-absorbed. I believe a couple should do things for each other; make compromises, make decisions, equally give & take. Otherwise, it’s just not a relationship if all someone does is wait on you hand & foot.

And of course, Edward is a pseudo-vampire anyway. Anything he does in terms of being a vampire is hilarious, even more so than his feeble attempts to be a boyfriend. Bella is just an insecure little girl who needs a man to completely saturate his life with hers in order for her to feel loved and important. Talk about sexism at its highest.

And I realize Meyer is a highly religious woman. Not that I am implying only atheists and “devil worshipers” have the ability to write credible vampire literature, but .. it is a bit funny to me that someone so incredibly devout is writing about something as seemingly evil and “magical” as vampires. Having a vampire wait to have sex before marriage is kind of funny to me. I don’t know many morally equipped vampires, ya know, seeing as they are eternally damned creatures of the night who depend on human blood to survive & whatnot.

But hey, what do I know really, right ? Apparently, I have been living a lie in thinking that vampires could not come out during the daylight.

Stoker and many centuries of lore & legend has been feeding us lies, LIES , I tell you !!!

[quote=tiziana]ooooooooo please….emma watson is just jealous!!..I think Twilight portrays the real stages that a person has to go through when he or she is in love for real.. such as doubt on whether he or she chose the right person, trust and patience too!! In fact I think the guys should take example from twilight..maybe one day they will learn how to treat a woman with respect!![/quote]

Hang on a second? So, manipulating and allowing your girlfriend to alienate herself from everything and everyone in her life and walking all over her and letting her be totally spineless and weak is respect?

You and I clearly own different dictionaries.

OMFG you guys are all lame as f*ck you talk about the twilight characters like they are real people HELLO!!! Earth to twihards they are fictional characters!!! My lord go outside and do something constructive would you. Both series twilight and Harry Potter are unrealistic and not at all fact or like real life. Witches and wizards are not real and vampires are not real. Ugh you people are so stupid! Quit defending either one of them like they are your friends and family. Yeesh!

[quote=mandaface]OMFG you guys are all lame as f*ck you talk about the twilight characters like they are real people HELLO!!! Earth to twihards they are fictional characters!!! My lord go outside and do something constructive would you. Both series twilight and Harry Potter are unrealistic and not at all fact or like real life. Witches and wizards are not real and vampires are not real. Ugh you people are so stupid! Quit defending either one of them like they are your friends and family. Yeesh![/quote]

haha chill out, by sending that you’re not saying much better for yourself because hey, you’re still posting a comment. meaning you care. if you didn’t, you wouldn’t.
i think if you read it, you’d realize people are just giving valuable arguements about how twlight is not good for the youth and hp gives off a better signal to anyone really. also it doesn’t seem like they think the characters are real, any novel reader would know that and not get it confused. i think they are trying to give off a bigger message & the characters are only valuable points…kinda like one argument out of three in an essay.
yeah neither is real, but still which one is a better one for the kids? twilight…..or harry potter? trust me i dont like either and id still watch harry potter over twilight because it gives a better potrayal of real life; disregarding the magic theme.
it gives off hope, friendship, the importance of learning from your mistakes, education, teamwork, good overcoming evil; all things that are so important to life. and twlight? hey, unhealthy obsession!

and about the article; emma is ridiciluously rich and has a job lined up for her really whenever she wants it. she is studying at a major university and apparantly has the brains to knock you on your ass. now what does she have to be jealous about twilight? uh, nothing. she’s not dissing it, just saying it like it is. take it or leave it, but the truth hurts.

I bet she never said that.

that’s what older twilight fans want, sex. if you really take a look into the age base of twilight fans you’ll see that most of them are 18+. sure there are people younger than that but a majority of the ones i’ve seen have all been at least 18+.

“Is the Twilight series too focused on sex,” — Well, partly; it’s really to o focused on pointless “story” and teen crap. Oh wait, that’s the audience. lol

Finnally… I’ve been saying so for a while and nice to know people agree. Twilight has far too much sex in it… god, i’m not saint or something, but there’s a limmit in wich it gets really uncomfortable. They’re always in sexual tension, all the time… no matter how much they’re together. Where’s the love?? the simple love for things in a.. well sort of guy other than body and the way he looks like. There you go, I just bumped into a list saying top 10 topless twilight stars. There are more than 10???

[quote=Jenny]First of all, I’m sorry if i offend you, but i really don’t see it like you. For me twilight isn’t about love, because i can’t really see how they fall in love!! i read the books and i never read how bella discribed edwards personality!! all she said about him is how hot and handsome he is!! and in my opinion they both don’t have a real personality because they have no hobbies, no option on music or books or movies etc. I can’t see how they possibly could be in love when the both don’t have a personality!![/quote]
Jenny, in Twilight you don’t need anymore to summarize one by one that they’re engaged in their hobbies, sports, music, books, and other school stuffs inorder to have a personality. It will just make the movie lenghty and complicated with those unnecessary details making the movie lousy and unexciting. Its not the same like Harry Potter which is basically concerned about academic excellence and leisure activities in airy fights riding in brooms. In meeting your True love, you don’t need exactly to be organized and frantic squeezing to know the person very well. That’s the reason WHY LOVE IS MYSTERIOUS happening in the wrong place either with the right person or with the right time. That’s where the thrill and excitement sets in, of falling in love with a stranger whom you doesn’t know but loving him unconditionally. Only that Twilight is fiction but the emotions are happening and dealt in real lives. If you don’t experience that to yourself, I can say that you’re a lousy romantic.

[quote=Alex]In my opinion she can be glad she doesn’t have to make out with that ogly guy and she is totally right about everything she said!![/quote]
The main haters who usually defending HP are mostly boys ditched with their sickening lagging balls who are damn hypocrites unwanting sex but who desperately grooping their pants with their partners. You, low-lying ego guys must join Emma with her unruly insecurity. Why drag Twilight to the issue if she can promote their own movie? Does she want to disable Twilight through her insecure comment? Pretty obvious she’s sulky jealous! We’re not fighting for the books because each franchise has its own character, plot, and audiences. And Emma doesn’t have to destroy the other for the sake of patronizing her own. It only shows that she’s threatened by the enormousity of Twilight. Envy kills!

[quote=Kris]Thank God! Someone thinks like me!!! YOu get the point!!![/quote]
You’re really really absolutely right Jess!!!!! Emma watson must have at least chose her words before answering. As if she’s not coming from a prestigious school. Brown? LOL! Uttering comments that can trumple the other? There is something personal to what she said. She’s not Smart. She’s horribly DUMB!

[quote=Alex]In my opinion she can be glad she doesn’t have to make out with that ogly guy and she is totally right about everything she said!![/quote]
Emma is the one who’s ugly! Lucky for Rob he was not involved with her. She’s an ATTENTION-SEEKER! Miley Cyrus has some documented comments also but you can feel easily the ill feelings of the person by the words that comes out from her mouth. She’s an innocent nerdy freak CARELESS WITH HER WRY COMMENTS. She’s not the highest paid actress. There’s more highly-paid actresses than her! She’s a stoney-snobbish character in HP.

[quote=Terex007]
Emma is the one who’s ugly! Lucky for Rob he was not involved with her. She’s an ATTENTION-SEEKER! Miley Cyrus has some documented comments also but you can feel easily the ill feelings of the person by the words that comes out from her mouth. She’s an innocent nerdy freak CARELESS WITH HER WRY COMMENTS. She’s not the highest paid actress. There’s more highly-paid actresses than her! She’s a stoney-snobbish character in HP.[/quote]

Oh wow, someone is ignorant ! You’re hilarious, backing up your ridiculous, narrow-minded and obviously bitter comments through the idiocy of Miley Cyrus. I mean, now that I know Miley Cyrus does not like Emma, I am totally convinced that she is an innocent, nerdy ice queen !!

HA. Because someone as classy & admirable as Miley Cyrus makes legit points, right ?

And it is funny that you make jabs towards Emma’s personal life as though you know her. She might play an innocent nerdy character in Harry Potter, but that does not necessarily mean she is just like her character.

And if she happens to be, more power to her. Class certainly goes a long way as compared to Miley’s actions of pole-dancing, prancing around scantily clad, dancing obscenely with a man 30 years her senior, and Stewart, tossing education out the window, smoking pot openly and stupidly, dating a guy with no talent nor hygiene, and being an overall menace to society, productivity and the art of acting.

And who cares if Emma is not the highest paid actress of the universe? It certainly is not as though Stewart is anywhere closer. And I can assure you, neither Stewart nor Pattinson possess anything to be green with envy over.

You’re an ignorant fool, completely oblivious to facts and intelligent points and conversation. Take your sophomoric opinions and words to someTHING else along the same level of intelligence: grapes, pebbles, walls and other inanimate objects.

Or you could buy My Baby Can Read, actually attempt to read good literature worthy of its fame and influence, contact a tutor to educate you properly, then hire a life coach to help you with your obvious insecurity issues, and THEN come back to post upon this board.

Otherwise, piss off.

[quote=Danii007]
Jenny, in Twilight you don’t need anymore to summarize one by one that they’re engaged in their hobbies, sports, music, books, and other school stuffs inorder to have a personality. It will just make the movie lenghty and complicated with those unnecessary details making the movie lousy and unexciting. Its not the same like Harry Potter which is basically concerned about academic excellence and leisure activities in airy fights riding in brooms. In meeting your True love, you don’t need exactly to be organized and frantic squeezing to know the person very well. That’s the reason WHY LOVE IS MYSTERIOUS happening in the wrong place either with the right person or with the right time. That’s where the thrill and excitement sets in, of falling in love with a stranger whom you doesn’t know but loving him unconditionally. Only that Twilight is fiction but the emotions are happening and dealt in real lives. If you don’t experience that to yourself, I can say that you’re a lousy romantic.[/quote]

And you! Your ignorance is almost as terrible as the idiot that posted after you. There is nothing “mysterious” about the so-called love fest between Bella and Edward. And how dare I believe that movies/novels etc. should actually contain characters with PERSONALITY?

“Falling in love with a stranger whom you doesn’t know but you but loving him unconditionally.” Laughable. Your take on love is laughable, as well as your terrible grammar. Unconditional love comes with KNOWING a significant other, including their inevitable flaws, mistakes, and weaknesses, but STILL loving them despite being imperfect.

Oh, and another thing. Proof-read before you try to explain anything. They do not “ride IN brooms” , but rather “ride ON brooms.” You also made a horrifying number of other errors.

And lengthy movies are sometimes the best. Have you never seen LOTR? You’re right, let’s be done with taking the personalities, hobbies, thought processes and intelligence away from characters within movies and novels to make them easier to read, watch, and understand.

It obviously worked well enough for Twilight ! (sarcasm)

[quote=Terex007]Emma is the one who’s ugly! Lucky for Rob he was not involved with her. She’s an ATTENTION-SEEKER! Miley Cyrus has some documented comments also but you can feel easily the ill feelings of the person by the words that comes out from her mouth. She’s an innocent nerdy freak CARELESS WITH HER WRY COMMENTS. She’s not the highest paid actress. There’s more highly-paid actresses than her! She’s a stoney-snobbish character in HP.[/quote]
Um… ACCORDING to Forbes and Vanity Fair magazine, SHE IS the highest paid actress and made more than any actress last year, including your precious Kristen! Unless, of course, they are lying, but why in the hell would they do that??? *sarcasm*

[quote=Leslie]Oh wow, someone is ignorant ! You’re hilarious, backing up your ridiculous, narrow-minded and obviously bitter comments through the idiocy of Miley Cyrus. I mean, now that I know Miley Cyrus does not like Emma, I am totally convinced that she is an innocent, nerdy ice queen !! HA. Because someone as classy & admirable as Miley Cyrus makes legit points, right ? And it is funny that you make jabs towards Emma’s personal life as though you know her. She might play an innocent nerdy character in Harry Potter, but that does not necessarily mean she is just like her character. And if she happens to be, more power to her. Class certainly goes a long way as compared to Miley’s actions of pole-dancing, prancing around scantily clad, dancing obscenely with a man 30 years her senior, and Stewart, tossing education out the window, smoking pot openly and stupidly, dating a guy with no talent nor hygiene, and being an overall menace to society, productivity and the art of acting.And who cares if Emma is not the highest paid actress of the universe? It certainly is not as though Stewart is anywhere closer. And I can assure you, neither Stewart nor Pattinson possess anything to be green with envy over. You’re an ignorant fool, completely oblivious to facts and intelligent points and conversation. Take your sophomoric opinions and words to someTHING else along the same level of intelligence: grapes, pebbles, walls and other inanimate objects. Or you could buy My Baby Can Read, actually attempt to read good literature worthy of its fame and influence, contact a tutor to educate you properly, then hire a life coach to help you with your obvious insecurity issues, and THEN come back to post upon this board. Otherwise, piss off.[/quote]
Leslie, you’re the one who’s in denial over defending Emma’s words as if you know her very well. I do not like Miley Cyrus but at least she’s not as offensive as Emma. Its very clear that Emma connotes sarcasm to what she says and until now you’re the only one who’s trying to be defensive for a woman who’s acting skills doesn’t make an impact in the industry. Its only the HP books that sells, not your mother f*cker Emma!!! She’s not the highest -paid actress for all you know! I’m not a fan of Kristine either.

Not all who watches Twilight are teens. All ages. But Hp, only kids. I think the books of HP is fine but not the characters. I’ve watched all the movies of HP, recycling the same story and magic at different plots and scenes. Nothing really interesting compared with other fantasy movies which is a lot better than HP’s special effects. Its a bit of a little boring. Its only the books you’ll find it spectacular.

[quote=tiziana]i don’t know who you are but very good point..lol..cos after all it is all about what teenagers experience while growing up and begin to expeience the feeling of love for other persons rather than their relatives.[/quote]
You’re absolutely right my Dear! Only those morally-constricted individuals find it hard to understand the reality of being in love find it hard on their asses to comprehend; not literally having a relationship with a vampire.

[quote=sassa]Hahaha! Whatever twi-fans!!! Twilight is still second rate compared to HP. The sales tells it all!! Be it in book or in movie. So Emma “missbrains” doesn’t need to be jealous. Kristen “scowlface” and Robert “dirtyface” can sex all they want![/quote]
And Emma Snotty face can kiss for the first time, hug the first time, then throw up for the first time. And they can kiss all they want to appear at least, a little bit sexier. Who caaaares!!!??# Nobody is interested! I myself will cover my face and hide under the duvette not to see both of them kissing. Sucks!

Don’t be too defensive of your Naive-Stupid Emma Watson ,Leslie. You cannot have a share with her pay check either. You can battle as much as you want squeezing your brains out. But please! Don’t disregard the fact that she is faulty of what she had commented. It’s very f*cking obvious to deny that your stupid Emma made the careless comment of her life. That’s not Smart. That’s STUPIDITY! Don’t join her for being stupid because its completely comprehensible.

[quote=Leslie]Oh and another thing, I would not want someone who does EVERYTHING I want. That would make me selfish and self-absorbed. I believe a couple should do things for each other; make compromises, make decisions, equally give & take. Otherwise, it’s just not a relationship if all someone does is wait on you hand & foot. And of course, Edward is a pseudo-vampire anyway. Anything he does in terms of being a vampire is hilarious, even more so than his feeble attempts to be a boyfriend. Bella is just an insecure little girl who needs a man to completely saturate his life with hers in order for her to feel loved and important. Talk about sexism at its highest. And I realize Meyer is a highly religious woman. Not that I am implying only atheists and “devil worshipers” have the ability to write credible vampire literature, but .. it is a bit funny to me that someone so incredibly devout is writing about something as seemingly evil and “magical” as vampires. Having a vampire wait to have sex before marriage is kind of funny to me. I don’t know many morally equipped vampires, ya know, seeing as they are eternally damned creatures of the night who depend on human blood to survive & whatnot. But hey, what do I know really, right ? Apparently, I have been living a lie in thinking that vampires could not come out during the daylight. Stoker and many centuries of lore & legend has been feeding us lies, LIES , I tell you !!![/quote]
Yeah lies. Now you see that it is all lies. What about HP? More than LIIIIIIIIIES!!!!!! Is there anything more exciting about this movie casting spell and mumbling absurd curse aside from this? Its a WITCHCRAFT, IGNORANT!!! No matter how you discipline yourself of becoming good inflicting pain and suffering towards a person, still this is the WORKS OF THE DEVIL. And you have the nerve to judge the religion and belief of Stephenie Meyer of how she created Edward as a vampire? You must be out of your mind to remind you that this is all fiction. Nothing is real here! Not even your HP madness! So don’t be too mentally absorbed Leslie, or else I would rather advice you to see a Psychiatrist to treat your critically-illed ego. You’re the one who needs a life coach for your twisted morals!

AND WHAT OTHER MOVIES DOES EMMA WATSON DID TO PROVE HERSELF AS A GOOD ACTRESS? HMMM, LET ME THINK FIRST…..AH! HARRY POTTER, HARRY POTTER, HARRY POTTER,HARRY POTTER,HARRY POTTER, HARRY POTTER? ANYTHING MORE?!!? NO MORE?!!?!!#*??? THAT’S WHY SHE PACKED UP HER THINGS TO BE MORE CLOSER TO HOLLYWOOD, NOT JUST TO STUDY BUT TO SEEK BETTER OPPORTUNITIES INORDER TO BOOST HER CAREER.. AND FOLLOW R-PATTZ MAYBE…..LOL! LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!

[quote=jess]Watson just phrased her comment the wrong way! She should have just said HP isn’t a romance film so the kissing scenes are rare for them so it will be exciting for everyone etc. There was no need for her to compare an innocent childish kissing scene in HP to Twilight whose characters are older, she made Twilight come across as a porno![/quote]

You’re 100% right Jess! You hit it BULLSEYE! Because she’s stupid and childish. She can be compared to a small child stamping and sulking, as like she was lost in a game.

[quote=Ollie]You’re 100% right Jess! You hit it BULLSEYE! Because she’s stupid and childish. She can be compared to a small child stamping and sulking, as like she was lost in a game.[/quote]
The only people who are stupid and childish is all the twihards who don’t take the time to understand Emma’s quote in the first place.

Even the TWIactors admit that the movies ooze sex, are you going to bash them too?

[quote=tiziana]ooooooooo please….emma watson is just jealous!!..I think Twilight portrays the real stages that a person has to go through when he or she is in love for real.. such as doubt on whether he or she chose the right person, trust and patience too!! In fact I think the guys should take example from twilight..maybe one day they will learn how to treat a woman with respect!![/quote]
treat women with respect.. aka do as i tell you or i’ll force you?!?! I’m going to put you in XYZ situation as I know whats best for you.. wow what fantastic role model for men (groans*)
why exactly is Emma jealous?? WHAT is Emma supposed to be jealous of??… I enjoy Twilight as much as the next person but it is a story about sexual tension and the power it has over peoples actions. Are you perhaps saying she’s jealous over her role in HP and would rather have hot and steamy sex scenes?? listen Twi-Hard put the books down and walk away.

We’ll put the books down Danii! This battle is over. Everything is expressed and explained here already. There’s no point of warring over these two distinct films. Lets ends this! But before I leave, I just wanna say, f*ck OFF LESLIE!!!!! Go and eat your books including your damn morals!!! You cannot be a good writer if you do not know how to twist your story. Sell your critical ideas to tormented and exhausting people like you!

[quote=Daniilove]We’ll put the books down Danii! This battle is over. Everything is expressed and explained here already. There’s no point of warring over these two distinct films. Lets ends this! But before I leave, I just wanna say, f*ck OFF LESLIE!!!!! Go and eat your books including your damn morals!!! You cannot be a good writer if you do not know how to twist your story. Sell your critical ideas to tormented and exhausting people like you![/quote]

Lord, you’re obnoxious. It’s funny that you jump to conclusions about morals seeing as I have never even mentioned my own morals. And .. you stated you wanted to end this. Then why leave with a rude comment that has no legitimate fact? I have not been on here in ages. And another thing. I AM a good writer. Meyer is NOT. Did I say I was the best? As a matter of fact, I rarely mentioned my own writing, but OTHER brilliant writers worthy of recognition in their genre. And her plots are not interesting, or twisted , or fun. They’re boring & vapid. It doesn’t take a new Shakespeare to actually write a good novel or poem; but Meyer has no reason to publish fiction.

You stupid Twilight fans. I defend the BOOKS, not the movies. It is not even that I am defending Emma, only stating that OBVIOUSLY if you take the time to read her comment/interview, and take a step out of Twilight-world .. you will realize that her comment was NOT meant in the sense that it was used by this website.

And again, Dani-whoever you are. Hmm. So, witchcraft is of the devil, but an eternally-damned creature of the night who feasts on human blood is NOT?

And yes, idiot, I am well aware that they are both fictitious works. I do not believe in magic, nor vampires. I simply defend GOOD literature, & Twilight is NOT it.

[quote=Leslie]You stupid Twilight fans. I defend the BOOKS, not the movies. It is not even that I am defending Emma, only stating that OBVIOUSLY if you take the time to read her comment/interview, and take a step out of Twilight-world .. you will realize that her comment was NOT meant in the sense that it was used by this website.And again, Dani-whoever you are. Hmm. So, witchcraft is of the devil, but an eternally-damned creature of the night who feasts on human blood is NOT? And yes, idiot, I am well aware that they are both fictitious works. I do not believe in magic, nor vampires. I simply defend GOOD literature, & Twilight is NOT it.[/quote ]
Don’t outshine me with your dumb reasons Idiot! You’re not as smart as you thought you’d be. We’re not arguing with the books. We’re not levelling with your Harry Potter either. You don’t know what other people are feeling about towards other people. Even the wealthy individuals envy their own kind eventhough they all got everything that they have . How much more for celebrities like Emma? You don’t know her but we can sense something to what she says. Money isn’t the only reason to be jealous. Other reasons might be. Popularity does. You had mentioned from your previous statement that all these vampire stuff is about lies thats why we throw back the same quote to you that both HP and Twilight are all lies because they’re fiction. You’re the one who argues about it. Not us!!!

[quote=Leslie]You stupid Twilight fans. I defend the BOOKS, not the movies. It is not even that I am defending Emma, only stating that OBVIOUSLY if you take the time to read her comment/interview, and take a step out of Twilight-world .. you will realize that her comment was NOT meant in the sense that it was used by this website.And again, Dani-whoever you are. Hmm. So, witchcraft is of the devil, but an eternally-damned creature of the night who feasts on human blood is NOT? And yes, idiot, I am well aware that they are both fictitious works. I do not believe in magic, nor vampires. I simply defend GOOD literature, & Twilight is NOT it.[/quote]

We’re not arguing with the books, you Moron! These books are all crap and just fades with your imagination. Neither knew about Emma nor you. But a woman’s sense of thinking can easily be felt by a fellow woman. Maybe she doesn’t meant what she says. Or perhaps only the magazine makes it too sensational. But one thing for sure, we will not allow her to just let go like that. Celebrities are filled with insecurities, and she’s one of them. Just look at her personality! By simply looking at the person, without a thorough glimps at her, you can easily say what kind of person she is the moment she opens her mouth. Money is not only the boundaries of envy. More beyond that! Do you think she’s the richest celebrity in this business? Naaahh!!! Forget it Idiot!!!

[quote=Vera888]

We’re not arguing with the books, you Moron! These books are all crap and just fades with your imagination. Neither knew about Emma nor you. But a woman’s sense of thinking can easily be felt by a fellow woman. Maybe she doesn’t meant what she says. Or perhaps only the magazine makes it too sensational. But one thing for sure, we will not allow her to just let go like that. Celebrities are filled with insecurities, and she’s one of them. Just look at her personality! By simply looking at the person, without a thorough glimps at her, you can easily say what kind of person she is the moment she opens her mouth. Money is not only the boundaries of envy. More beyond that! Do you think she’s the richest celebrity in this business? Naaahh!!! Forget it Idiot!!![/quote]

You call me an idiot yet your entire post makes absolutely no gramatically correct sense. Amusing. I do not know Emma personally , nor do you. Who are you to make jabs towards her character and/or personality when you will never meet her? And did I say ever that she was the highest paid actress? I did not. Nor do I think she is. However, I think she is an exceptional young woman with many accomplishments, both career wise and education wise. She opts to continue her college education in a world today where actors and actresses skip off to Hollywood simply to avoid reality’s obligation to actually work hard in order to make something of yourself in middle-class America. Or anywhere for that matter.

Stop putting words into my mouth and grow up. Go read a book and improve your own English before you choose to insult my intelligence.

Most of the actors forget what is acting & what is selling…The HP series is a complicated story line of the elderly peoples, their anxiety, courage, faults and so on.. but the executioners are the little children and is thus most difficult 2 act.. She knows well enough acting than most of the history and the rest knows how to make things sell-able by nudity..

[quote=Kendo_Bunny]There is no love in Twilight – only mutual sexual obsession. People who are in love have conversations. Bella and Edward do not. People who are in love have mutual interests besides sex. Bella and Edward do not. Edward doesn’t do “anything” for Bella. He does what he thinks he should do, even if she doesn’t want him to. They don’t know each other at all… probably because both of them were intended to be completely blank tabula rasas for the audience to project onto.[/quote]
I don’t agree with that. At all. I think we haven’t read the same books (have you even read them?) They DO have conversations (they often talk about their families, about their future, about love, yes, but they’re in love so it’s to be expected). They DO have mutual interests besides sex (literature, poetry, music, they both like “Clair de lune” for example) Yes, Edward often does what he thinks is best for Bella, not always what she wants, he’s kind of overprotective. What do you want? He might have never had a girlfriend, plus he’s a vampire, Bella’s a tiny human in his eyes. All fragile and weak. But he WILL realize he was wrong. He’s not perfect (no, he’s not). And finally, they DO know each other. Well, not at the beginning of their story, obviously. You can’t know someone you’ve just met. But they DO get to know each other throughout the books.

[quote=Corrigo]“treat a woman with respect”… by obsessing over her, stalking her, only allowing her closely allotted time with her friends, and pressuring her to get an abortion.

Nice.[/quote]
By “her friends” do you refer to Jacob? He’s the only one Edward does not want Bella to see (and we know why) The other “friends”, SHE does not want to spend time with them. Except maybe Angela… The truth is Bella is a lonely girl, back in Phoenix she had no friends, she grew up without any, so I guess she does not need them. Edward is not at fault here.

“Pressuring her to get an abortion”! Clearly you did not understand a thing (or are you just doing it on purpose?) Edward was worried about Bella. The “baby” was growing too fast, it was killing her from the inside. It was not a “normal human baby”. They did not know what it was. It is rather uncommon for a vampire to have a “child” with a human. And vampires are demons. So what was going to come out of her womb? Was she going to die giving birth to some kind of bloodthirsty monster? Anyway, she WAS going to die, monster or not. And I think a lot of men would choose the life of their wife over the life of the baby, if they had to make a choice, just like Edward. And the mothers would choose the life of their baby over their own, just like Bella. It’s totally normal. Edward did not want Bella to “abort” because he did not want the baby, he was just afraid and he did not want to lose her. And in the end she got what she wanted. She kept the baby and she became a vampire. All is well that ends well.

Just before you ask, I’m not a teenager anymore, I’m 23. And I may be a little crazy sometimes but I’m perfectly sane, thank you very much.

And Twilight does not “sell sex”. It’s ridiculous! It’s just about love and desire. I can’t see what’s wrong with that. Maybe miss Watson is just fed up with the comparison…

Emma Watson jealous?
that’s a joke!
What reason has she to be jealous?
She’s part of Harry Potter. And Twilight will never be in the same realm of awesomness as Harry Potter no matter what anyone says!
Besides, Bella’s whiny and Hermione’s smart. Edward is creepy and Ron is adorable AND awesome. (i.e. I’d rather be kissing Ron than Edward… just saying…)
Twilight has vampires and wear wolves. Harry Potter has magic AND vampires and wear wolves.
And Emma’s just an all around inspiring person and an amazing actress. I can’t say the same about Kristen Stewart…

[quote=titvan]
I don’t agree with that. At all. I think we haven’t read the same books (have you even read them?) They DO have conversations (they often talk about their families, about their future, about love, yes, but they’re in love so it’s to be expected). They DO have mutual interests besides sex (literature, poetry, music, they both like “Clair de lune” for example) Yes, Edward often does what he thinks is best for Bella, not always what she wants, he’s kind of overprotective. What do you want? He might have never had a girlfriend, plus he’s a vampire, Bella’s a tiny human in his eyes. All fragile and weak. But he WILL realize he was wrong. He’s not perfect (no, he’s not). And finally, they DO know each other. Well, not at the beginning of their story, obviously. You can’t know someone you’ve just met. But they DO get to know each other throughout the books.

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My problem with your argument is this: Edward is supposedly a vampire, right? Well, so Meyer tries to present him, but we all know he really is not. Regardless, Edward is presented as a creature of the undead, & eternally damned. He is the walking dead, yet he has living sperm with which he impregnates Bella? It is contradictory, obviously flawed & comical.

He is DEAD. He can no longer produce sperm.

And Bella is a prime example of how not to act in high school. Getting too attached to a guy who only wants to control your life, who you hang out with, and what you do or see. It is unhealthy, and not a good example to children her age who read the books.

And the things Bella and Edward supposedly talk about have no substance. I talk about those things with friends or even slight friends. I talk about music with people on the street, for God’s sake. They do not possess a true relationship, merely infatuation. Certainly not grounds to fall in true love on, nor marry and produce a child.

Twilight is ridiculous! It’s not true vampire fiction. It is not even worthy of being called a novel series. It just so happens to be called such because pre-teen idiots fall in love and Meyer wanted her story to be “unique” so she made Edward a vampire that sparkles in sunlight. Vampires DO NOT sparkle. They are, as I mentioned before, eternally damned creatures OF THE NIGHT. The point of being a vampire is to be unable to ever truly see sunlight again, yet walk the earth forever. As well as severing all ties with humanity, by having to symbolically thirst for blood for eternity.

It is not sweet, it is not romantic.

And the so-called werewolves in Twilight are so far from a true werewolf. They are shape-shifters, Jesus. I believe they even touch on that statement within the books!

[quote=Tia]Where is lessthanthree? need your input!Emma has no reason to be jealous! HP is far more successful than Twilight, in the box office and books! She is mega rich and actually has a good head on her shoulders. Ivy league girl.Why is everyone making it impossible for these two franchises to co-exist with each other! I don’t remember it being this bad when Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean were around![/quote]

I agree so badly with that. People is not letting the two diferent universes that represents each movie to coexist. And I think, somehow we should all realize that we’ll never get to an agreement. Anyway, I’ll use my right to express myself, and I’ve got to say that first of all, that comment, actually, it’s been misled. People is right when they say that she just meant to say that everyone looks forward to see the Hermione/Ron kiss, because isn’t something common in the movies. In the other hand, I’m a fan of both, HP and Twilight. I grew up with HP, and now Twilight joined my teenage years. I think that yes, maybe Twilight has that sexual tension, but I think Is completely normal. Come on, if you love someone, someday, you’ll want to have sex. Besides, both of the worlds are FANTASY. They’re not reality. And that is something that for me, somehow, justifies the kinda akward obsession, of Edward, who is not a human being, he is a creature. So, it shouldn’t suprise anyone that his love, isn’t the same than the normal people one. By the way, I think that the Edward/Bella relationship has both, a little of obsession, and a little love. And that its what made me focus on Twilight, read the books and like them. I also agree on the comment that Twilight does promote abstinence. That’s why there is even more sexual tension, I think. And, I think Edward does have a personality, and Bella aswell. But, the way Stephanie wrote the books, their personalities don’t care, is specifically about their feelings for each other, wether those feelings were love,or hate or whatever! And is obvious that Bella feels kinda “thrilled” by Edward, and I guess that that includes his personality, but yet, she focuses in his physical appearance, which proves what I said that she does has a personality, and part of her personality is not caring about his personality as much as she cares about his aspect. And part of Edward personality is sometimes doing what he thinks is the best for her, no matter what she thinks, and sometimes doing what she wants. In real life people like this exist. And yes, most of people wouldn’t like a boyfriend like that, and yes, maybe Bella and her personality are the exception, and that’s why she likes him the way he is, that’s why she loves him, and that’s why she is happy with him.
I could go on talking hours about this, but I won’t, and the main idea, is that Emma’s words have been misunderstoods, that HP and Twilight has nothing to do between them, explaining a little bit about what I think of the subjects everyone talked about Twilight. Finally, I think, that how @Tia said, let this franchises co-exist! ;)

[quote=Tia]can we just agree to disagree? We are giving this more credit than it deserves. These gossip sites posted it because they knew it was going to start a huge fight between the franchises. Let’s not prove them right.Sorry if I offended anyone with my posts, but celebuzz succeeded with what they were trying to do.[/quote]

I agree. I also think that Emma maybe didn’t need to use Twilight to compare. She should have known that, -that- would cause -this-. And worst of all is that somehow we are being indoctrinated, because we are doing what these blogs and websites want to, confront the two series of films, and all you get is to dull our brains with nonsense. If you like Twilight, fine! If you like HP, fine! If you like them both, fine too.

[quote=hearts]I love Twilight and the Harry Potter franchise, but I have something to say about the both of them.. Emma didn’t need to bring up Twilight, people have been comparing the two franchises since ’08 and she shouldn’t have brought Twilight in it. She should know how crazy some Twilight fans are! But i’m sure ut was simply a comment taken way too far. I highly doubt she is jealous There’s three reason’s people(girls) like Twilight; 1.The extreme sexual tension seems exciting,along with the forbidden love aspectYou wish you were Bella Swan with two”perfect” guys drooling and fighting over you, and lastly, its unbeliveably senerio of “true love at first sight” with endless obstecles. (And plain jane Bella Swan gets to bone the suave vampire!) makes you a believer. I think my reason for fandom is a combinaion of 1&3Twilight does promte absinice because Edward is old school(literally) and will only have sex with Bella in they are Mr. and MS. HOWEVER, Bella gets married at 18 just to have sex with her vampire boyfrind who she has an unhealthy obsession with! She is NOTHING without him, just a bottomless abyss of depression….and that’s not good! While reading the books before the movies came out, all I could think was “These two are really creepy with their obsession for eachother, they know practically nothing about each other except for the fact he is a vampire and she is the palest person form Arizona” They don’t ever really interact in a personal way, they never seem to know each other, mainly because the two of them have no actual personalities. I think it’s the reader’s imaginations to make them however we think they are( I have no idea if that was done on purpose)Jacob has a crush on Bella in a normal way (says he wants her to dump the jerk who dumped her and left her unbeliveably depressed for him, because he will always treat her right). Edward is like many men in his time, he ACTS gentlemanly, but he’s super controlling! She can’t spend time with Jacob, but they can’t have an intimate relationship, he ask for too much! And Bella ask for two much as well, she always tells Jacob how much he loves him, KNOWING how that hurts him. But she wants thier friendship, . And she tries to guilt Edward into turing her into a vampire(Its the only way we can truly be together forever!) knowing how much it hurts the one she supossedly loves so desperately.I know, my ranting doesn’t make me seem like such a fan, but I am! I love it becuase of the unrealstic forbidden love asect. Even without the mythical creatures, love is never really THAT blind and doesn’t happen THAT fast to THOSE types of people. Seeing(or reading) that type of thing makes it seem that thier is true love for the weirdos and mildly attractive(like myself) out there! , Iknow the girl is stupidly in love and ask for too much, and same for the guy, but its just a book and movie series, so I try my best not to take it too seriously ;)[/quote]

Completely agreed. Amen.

[quote=Leslie]You call me an idiot yet your entire post makes absolutely no gramatically correct sense. Amusing. I do not know Emma personally , nor do you. Who are you to make jabs towards her character and/or personality when you will never meet her? And did I say ever that she was the highest paid actress? I did not. Nor do I think she is. However, I think she is an exceptional young woman with many accomplishments, both career wise and education wise. She opts to continue her college education in a world today where actors and actresses skip off to Hollywood simply to avoid reality’s obligation to actually work hard in order to make something of yourself in middle-class America. Or anywhere for that matter. Stop putting words into my mouth and grow up. Go read a book and improve your own English before you choose to insult my intelligence.[/quote]

You’re not an intelligent person Leslie as what you’re showing off thoughout your answers on this thread. You’re an illusionatic, lunatic attention-seeker. You’re a BOASTFUL god-damn IDIOT! Go back to your English class to where you belong! Just scan your sentence “when you don’t even meet her”. That’s met! Dumb you are! Join your morbid, stoney, sickening , muriatic-face Emma same like yours! Do you think you can measure your intelligence through your English grammar? Naaah! Boastful English Writers are poor in Mathematics! Eat your own ass!!!

[quote=rubber_ducks101]Emma Watson jealous?that’s a joke! What reason has she to be jealous? She’s part of Harry Potter. And Twilight will never be in the same realm of awesomness as Harry Potter no matter what anyone says!Besides, Bella’s whiny and Hermione’s smart. Edward is creepy and Ron is adorable AND awesome. (i.e. I’d rather be kissing Ron than Edward… just saying…)Twilight has vampires and wear wolves. Harry Potter has magic AND vampires and wear wolves. And Emma’s just an all around inspiring person and an amazing actress. I can’t say the same about Kristen Stewart…[/quote]

Ugly Duckling, I mean, Rubber Duck…Whattt??! You’d rather kiss Ron rather than Edward? You’re a Big Hypocrite! Perhaps you look like the same as Ron. And you’re implying to me that Emma is far better actress than Kristine? I do not like Kristine but I advise you to update your knowledge in comparing the 2 Stars by researching their accomplishments whether good or bad. What are the movies that were done by Emma so far?… Harry Potter, Harry Potter, Harry Potter, Harry Potter?…Can you measure Emma’s acting ability with a limited role? Yeah, she has done a series of HP, no question about it, but honey, Kristine will just scrub Emma into the floor with her movies done every year with different roles at the same time. Don’t compare the two coz Kristine is far more experienced than Emma. Emma maybe smart in terms of educational attainment, but she might be limited in other aspects on the otherhand. And even she would force herself to play into another role, but the problem is the project is not right for her ; still she will be left dormant or empty-handed. Bankability and Popularity is necessary, Rubber Duck inorder to be given abundant offers or projects. And that was Kristine’s got that Emma hasn’t. You might be good in other category but failed on the other. You cannot have everything at the same time if you will not focus in the area of your expertise. Because even if you want to but the opportunity doesn’t allow you; still you will be piled in the candidates for bin or a rotten Starlet wannabe.