'Real Housewives' Caroline Manzo Says Clash With Teresa Giudice Was 'Not Fun, It's Not Nice' (Q&A)
After spending several days on the road in relative peace, things reach a boiling point between Caroline Manzo and former friend Teresa Giudice on Sunday’s episode of Bravo’s The Real Housewives of New Jersey followed by a special Watch What Happens: Live with the two women.
“I couldn’t find anything positive about it,” Manzo, who tells Celebuzz that she watched Sunday’s episode at least six times rather than her usual two – once to blog about it and again when it airs to tweet about it.
“The only thing positive about it was I finally said what I needed to say and I’m done. And that was a year ago,” she continues. “And I have not seen or spoken to Teresa since the reunion last year with the exception of the Bravo commercial – I was in the same room with her. My last words to Teresa Giudice were at the reunion last year. And can I tell you, it’s been a wonderful year.”
Celebuzz spoke to Manzo, 51, about the clash airing Sunday, whether reconciliation with Giudice is possible and how she felt about the phone call in which Joe Giudice referred to his wife in very vulgar terms.
Celebuzz: You had done so well avoiding conflict with Teresa on the trip. Why did you find it necessary to get involved that night airing on Sunday's episode? Caroline Manzo: Your terminology is actually appropriate. I had to get involved, because [Teresa] looked directly at me and asked me a question. And I had no intention of saying a word, not a word, because I was exhausted. You can see in my face that I just wanted the trip to end. I was exhausted from it. And I was asked a direct question. And if you’re going to be so brave as to ask me a direct question and knowing what the answer is going to be, I’m going to give it to you. And that’s what happened.
CB: If viewers could only take one message from the episode, what would you like that to be? CM: There was nothing fun about it. I don’t relish any moment of it. I don’t look at that and say “winner” or “loser,” whatever the case may be. It was an ugly moment in my life that I want to forget. And I hope that I never have to deal with that again. It’s not fun. It’s not nice. There’s nothing to be proud of there. And the endgame was that’s the way I had to handle what was. That’s all.
CB: Knowing how much you hate the kind of person you were at the time, did you have any hesitation in doing Watch What Happens: Live with Teresa? CM: I am who I am and I know that there are those that love me and I know that there are those out there that don’t. But at the end of the day, I have to walk into my home and look at my husband and my children and my mom and my dad and say, “I hope you’re proud of me.” And that’s all I care about. When I have to tell my truth, I always tell my truth even if I’m ugly. If it makes me ugly, at least I can say, “You know what? I acted horribly and it had to be said.” Life isn’t lollipops and roses. Life sometimes sucks, right? Sometimes you’re in a rotten situation, but I will never make excuses for it.
CB: Do you see any possibility of reconciliation with Teresa? CM: I have a very clear understanding of what is. There could be forgiveness if it’s asked. I’m big enough to say that I was rude and obnoxious and very hard on [Teresa], which I was. But, that’s the level she brought me to. But, you still haven’t apologized for what you’ve done to any of us, not just me, to any of us. And until there’s a real legitimate apology, I’m not interested. So, why would I go back into the lion’s den? I said what I had to say. I was very blunt and very matter of fact in what I had to say. I don’t regret it. I regret that I had to do it, but I don’t regret those words because my conscience is clear now and I’m good. I don’t need to go back there. Why would I do that?
CB: To be clear, what is it you believe Teresa should apologize for? CM: I just don’t think she treated her family and friends with any kind of dignity or respect. And I think that’s sad, because everybody was there for her.
CB: Last episode, viewers watched as Joe said some pretty nasty things about Teresa while on the phone with some mystery person. What was it like being there for that? CM: We watched and learned when you guys did. None of us knew about that phone call. We were all puzzled about what they were doing in the vineyard. We knew something was going on that was somewhat inappropriate in the vineyard. But as far as the phone call, not one of the cast knew the content of that phone call. I think without a doubt it changed the mood of the entire night, because regardless of my feelings for Teresa, I don’t think any human being should be spoken to like that. I think it’s just wrong.
I thought it was very sad. I don’t care who the couple was. No one should be spoken to like that. And I just thought it was wrong and it was in very poor taste. I thought it was bad. It’s sad, because there was a time when she had a group of people around her that would have rallied for her.
The Real Housewives of New Jersey airs Sundays at 10 PM on Bravo.
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